Water-boarding here's the interview

Interview at the weekend, I really don't understand where O'Reilly's logic comes from - other than the fact that he's being contrary for the sake of it.

O'REILLY: Let's take War on Terror first. You're opposed to water-boarding, and I disagree with you on that. I think the president of the United States should have — just the president — should have the legal authority to order water-boarding in extraordinary circumstances.

Now, according to Tenet and to President Bush, used three times on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, al-Nashiri, and Abu Zubaydah. All three times the men broke when they were water-boarded, and they gave out information, according to the Bush administration, that saved thousands of lives.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, first of all, the scenario you're talking about is a million to one. Second of all, well, you know when you're torturing anybody — we know that they'll give you things.

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O'REILLY: These people gave up very good information.

MCCAIN: They gave up very bad information, too, according to some sources. But the point is: Do you want to abrogate the Geneva Conventions? In the next war that we're in, if you want an American tortured, a serviceman or -woman, by someone, a foreign country when we're in another war because we did it to the people in our captivity...

O'REILLY: These are terrorists, not soldiers though. They're not entitled to Geneva.

MCCAIN: Look, the Geneva Convention — yes, they are.

O'REILLY: No, they're not.

(CROSSTALK)

MCCAIN: The Geneva Conventions apply — in all due respect, I'll send you the information. Geneva applies to every person who is held in captivity by another country.

O'REILLY: Even criminals?

MCCAIN: Even criminals. And that — if they are in combat. And now there's a difference between uniformed combatants and non-uniformed combatants.

O'REILLY: You think 9/11 they were combatants, those people?

MCCAIN: I think that they were — I think we're in a war against radical Islamic extremism and I think that war is all over the globe. And I believe, as Colin Powell does, and these military officers who spent an entire career, that the Geneva Conventions call for…

O'REILLY: Apply to everybody.

MCCAIN: …a prohibition, a prohibition of inhumane, cruel and degrading treatment. And their concern is what happens to Americans in future wars if they are held captive.

O'REILLY: We're not fighting a nation now.

MCCAIN: We are fighting a conflict, and the Geneva Conventions have clear applications.

O'REILLY: We'll have a gentleman's disagreement on that one?